Both of the 50 plays that had the 8/5 SAs are now 6/5. There is a 3/5 play $5 MG on your immediate right as you enter the Hall of Lost Tribes from the entrance closest to the parking garage has 9/6 JOB for both 3 and 5 play. Can bet up to 10-coins for high rollers.

Stopped by the Mohegan Sun Wednesday, all the $1 and $5 Pick'Em in the old casino were out of service. 25 cent remained full pay, but were all taken. Walked over to the new section, all the $5 Pick'Em have been converted to short pay. All $1/$5 single line JoB have also been downgraded (except at the bars) and the $25 PKM is MIA.

The remaining 2 $10 PE machines in the new casino have been downgraded.

The Racebook Bartops were upgraded to TITO, but along with this they downgraded the $1 JOB to 8/5. Very disappointing as this was a nice quiet place to play. The Bow and Arrow and Video Star bars still had $1 Job as of 2/18/05.

The 25c PKM machines now earn 1 point per $90 coin-in.

Slot days runs from 6:00am-6:00am. All 3/5 plays on list are MIA. [The 50 play is still good but only (1) of these.] 99.9% PKM NOT MIA (They were only down a few days during adjustments.) : (4) 25c TITO Game Makers near the bar in the Hall of Lost Tribes casino. ADD: (6) 25c Game Maker slant-tops in right half of Smoke-Free Gaming room of Sky casino. MIA: The $10 Game Maker. The (8) 25c Game Maker slant-tops in the new slot area (where the poker room used to be) are in Earth casino. 9/6 JoB (99.5%) Circular bar in Sky casino is called Star bar, (21) of these bartops. (25) at Bow & Arrow. (21) at Wolf Den. (15) at Hall of Lost Tribes. No $2, just $1. MIA: Bartops at Cabaret are downgraded.

A host at MS told us that parking, swipping your card, checking your card for points or shopping is not considered a day of play for averages unless you put $s in a machine. We asked him whether it would be better for a h & w who play once a week for x$ each to play one week under his card for 2x$ and the next week under hers for 2x$. The host said it would be better, even though frequence of visits is considered as well as avarage theo. Also, you can't use one card if 1 plays tables and 1 plays machines. Note further that sometimes hosts answer questions without definite knowledge.

There are 2 FP Super Aces on the 3/5 play $5 machines in the new high-limit slots area in the circular bank near the entrance to the lounge.

Just got back from MS and all the bartops have been changed since our last visit two weeks ago except for the cabaret bar. They are now .01, .05 .25 and $1 denomination. The machines were tied up with penny and nickel playsers and getting a seat was really difficult. The cabaret bar will soon undergo these changes also. There are no more 10-coin $1 JOB at the bartops.

The (4) $1  9/6 JOB slant-tops in a carousel near the Wolf Den are MIA. Add (3) $5 PE slant-top Gamemakers in the high-limit slot room in the old casino.

Just came back from the Sun. Half of the GameMakers were converted to quarters and the others ($1) were moved to the left half of the room. Half of the IGT's there were converted to quarters and moved to the right half of the room. So now all quarters to the right and all dollars (& $5) to the left with same pay scales. So no more waiting in line for you quarter people; it's the dollar people's turn.

Ther are (4) $1 JB slant-tops in a carousel near the Wolf Den entrance.

As far as Sagamore status, I have been told that your host proposes you and a committee passes on the application. They are looking for history over a couple years as well as play level, since this status is seldom revoked once granted. As previously discussed, there is little benefit other than immediate lounge access and parking. You need a $35K yr gross theo for Sagamore and $50K for Sachem cards. I got a Sagamore card in the mail today, played there since March. Put in 50K+ per day about once a week.

You only need one hour of play at $5/hand (ie. 5 x $1) to be admitted into a lounge (sachem, feather, or arrow). You can get 24 hrs of lounge access for every day that qualifies, but they will only look back 30 days. He let me see my computer screen which showed my numbers (theos, avg's, etc.) None of the hosts who have seen my account were able to tell whether I was playing slots or VP; they treated it as the same game. No where did my screen show an actual loss, just the theoreticals. Using simple division, and having played only $1 PE, I was able to determine the theo they use for this is almost exactly 6%. I was interested in finding out what one needed to get comp concert tickets. Ced told me they look at 2 criteria. Your present 4 month average theo (per day), and your 1 year gross theo; you need to pass both. The requirement varies from show to show and can vary from day to day based on whether the artist has become more or less popular than expected. So I asked about an average show like Dolly Parton (now sold out of comp's). For her you needed a 4 month avg theo of $600, and a year gross theo of $30K. For Cher it got as high as $1500 avg theo. before it went back down. The gross theo is generally going to be 50 times the avg theo. So they "expect" you to gamble at least 50 days/yr; if you were there only 25, you'd have to gamble twice as much on the days you're there. While this might be the criteria for shows, it might similarly apply to other comps as well. Haaljo has written you need a $35K yr gross theo for Sagamore and $50K for Sachem cards. What is interesting that I've been told by other hosts as well is that gambling only a little on some days is worse than not gambling at all since it will lower your 4 month avg.

I've been told that my theo is $1400 per trip. I average 30-40K and would put the theo closer to 4%. Then again, there seems to be very few people working at MS that know what their talking about.